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  Counting service time in a creative way

  by nevaagain in

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  couting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.

  i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.

  they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).

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  Bungi Bill

  As in everything, you get what you emphasize. In the case of the WTS, they make a big issue out of "hours" - so guess what, that is exactly what they receive! i.e. an impressive amount of "time", most of which is utterly meaningless. I would have to say that I was at least as innovative as anybody else when it came to making a day in "service" stretch out, so as to fill up the quota. Much of that sprang out of sheer resentment:

  - I remember feeling "You B%$#&*d, you want hours, I'll give you bloody hours!"

  Just as well "This System" is not really in its death throes, and its residents in need of an urgent warning of imminent destruction. Were that really to be the case, this lot would be failing miserably in issuing that "warning".

  Bill.  

  
  
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  Happy Australia Day

  by Bungi Bill in

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  happy australia day to all here who reside in australia:.

  - and for those who have actually got the day off, halve your luck!.

  (yet again, i have drawn the short straw and am working today - oh, the joys of remote site fifo work!

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  Bungi Bill

  Happy Australia Day to all here who reside in Australia:

  - and for those who have actually got the day off, halve your luck!

  (Yet again, I have drawn the short straw and am working today - oh, the joys of Remote Site FIFO work!) 

  
  

  Bill.
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  Any 1975 Profiteers you know of?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  after the indian ocean tsunami, a brother with a budding real estate empire on the island floated the idea that people should sell their ocean-front properties, (he would oblige), before the coming big one, and they would fall even lower in price.

  lol.

  do you know any happy buyers in the pre-1975 era that are now sitting pretty?

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  Bungi Bill

  unless the buyer of the farm was 'in on' the 75 prediction and snickering about it. 

  He was!

  
  

  Bill
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  Any 1975 Profiteers you know of?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  after the indian ocean tsunami, a brother with a budding real estate empire on the island floated the idea that people should sell their ocean-front properties, (he would oblige), before the coming big one, and they would fall even lower in price.

  lol.

  do you know any happy buyers in the pre-1975 era that are now sitting pretty?

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  Bungi Bill

  About the only example I can recall was a brother who sold up his farm during those pre-1975 years (1973, to be exact). That property was located on some prime agricultural land in a rich farming district (the locals used to have a saying about that deep alluvial soil and how it would grow just about anything - "even grand pianos.")

  When this particular farm was sold, the consensus was that it had been let go at close to a "fire sale" price.

  Other than that, it did not escape unnoticed that certain others who also owned big farms appeared to have no interest at all in parting with those lucrative sources of income (and farming was a very profitable business in the years I am talking about). Noteworthy, though, that they (or at least their descendants) are still "in the Truth"

  - whereas that brother who let his place go for a song had a long battle with the brown bottle in the years post-1975.

  Bill.   
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  ARE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY STATISTICS REALLY TRUSTWORTHY?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  of these, over 2,000 were admitted to concentration camps.

  1,000 died in prison and concentration camps.

  another 1,000 of jehovah's witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps.".

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  Are Watchtower Society Statistics Really Trustworthy?

  For a variety of reasons, no. Good points made by OrphanCrow and also ecan6:

  i.e. Those of the "Bible Student" group who had already split with Uncle Joe Boozerford, but still ran afoul of the Nazis - and also those who became inactive during the Nazi era. The WTS definitely would not want that figure admitted to!

  
  

  Bill.

   
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  What are your experiences having Jehovah Witnesses work for you or you work with?

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  i've managed several thousand employees in the last decade.

  i've had a handful that identified themselves as witnesses.

  from experience, they were no different than any other employees.

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  Bungi Bill

  I only ever worked for one JW, and I would have to say that he was an excellent employer. Mind you, he was an exceptional person (Having never known him before he became a JW, I cannot comment on how much his religion contributed  / did not contribute towards that).

  Otherwise, all persons I know who worked for JWs have been unanimous that it was a negative experience. This includes a non-JW friend of my wife's, who worked many years for a pest control company where senior management is still dominated by prominent Witnesses. (Down in this part of the world, many elders are not window-washers. Pest control is another occupation in which the JWs are overly represented).

  Bill  
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  Atheist/Agnostic/Non-religious households are more moral than religious counterparts

  by Coded Logic in

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  dr. phil zuckerman (professor of sociology).

  my own ongoing research among secular americans - as well as that of a handful of other social scientists who have only recently turned their gaze on secular culture - confirms that non-religious family life is replete with its own sustaining moral values and enriching ethical precepts.

  chief among those: rational problem solving, personal autonomy, independence of thought, avoidance of corporal punishment, a spirit of "questioning everything" and, far above all, empathy.. the results of such secular child-rearing are encouraging.

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  To me, not at all surprising - I have always maintained that ethics and religion are two totally separate issues.

  
  

  Bill.

  
  
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  TO THE STUPID ATHEISTS:

  by atheist_R_stupid in

  1. watchtower
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  being that this is not "ex jws" and in fact, more driven by atheists talking a bunch of crap, im not even going to address you people like you know anything about jws because you dont.

  nor am i going to assume you know the bible because none of you do.. and yes, im speaking down at you all because you men have actually went out your way to make a site to speak down at an entire group of people.

  yet i bet you cant even handle a single uswer talking down at you, like you talk down about jws can you?.

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  Bungi Bill

  The accusation of "Stupid Atheists" coming from a guy who is, at best, barely even semi-literate?

  Talk about irony of ironies! 

  Then again, they do say that it often "takes one to know one." Maybe you are correct after all, and that we are stupid. On the matter of stupidity, you - out of all people - would be a bloody expert, so your opinion would have to rate highly.

  I salute you as a Subject Matter Expert!

  
  

  Bill

  (PS: Definition of the term expert = "A has-been drip under pressure"
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  American Sniper - courage or cowardice?

  by Simon in

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  the movie american sniper is breaking box office records and of course there is some irony that a movie about a sniper is released on martin luther king day (who was shot by one).. but of course there is a world of difference between an assassin and a military sniper ... or is there?.

  some are making a big stink about it and claiming that "snipers are cowards".

  it seems unfair to me.

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  Bungi Bill

  There are no Queensberry Rules in warfare, anymore than there are in a street brawl. To somebody ingrained with a Queensberry Rules mentality, much - if not most - of modern warfare involves widespread use of "cowards" weapons:

  - Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, bombing from high altitudes, and anti-personnel mines being just several examples of such. Singling out the snipers as "cowards" seems to me to be an exercise of somebody who knows very little of what they are talking about. Snipers actually often work from behind enemy lines, where they are as exposed to danger just as much, if not more, than most other combat soldiers.

  As for the movie, I would have thought that the time to form an opinion is after having watched it. That is what I will be doing, anyway!

  Bill.

   
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  Kingdom Hall science.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. jw
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  my wife is listening in today.

  i hear the speaker talking about "godless" people.

  they have not made a thorough investigation about creationism vs evolution.

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  Bungi Bill

  "Pseudo-science" I would call it, and the list goes on and on. For example, that 1967 magazine (can't remember if it was Watchtower or Awake - one of their propaganda sheets, anyway) that made the claim that men were better suited for headship than women because their brain sizes were larger. That's what they said!

  Bill.